I agree with these conclusions and strongly support the addition of newl.

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| -----Original Message-----
| From: boost-bounces@[...].org
| [mailto:boost-bounces@[...].org]On Behalf Of Thomas Witt
| Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:19 AM
| To: Boost mailing list
| Subject: Re: [boost] Re: I/O library status
|
|
|
| Hi,
|
| On Monday 02 June 2003 19:21, Ed Brey wrote:
| >  * newl differs from '\n' only in that newl doesn't perform background
| >  formatting.  Presumably one would choose to use newl to avoid the
| >  formatting.  What is undesirable about '\n' being formatted?
|
| To me there are basically two reasons that make newl desirable beside the
| formatting issue.
|
| 1. std::endl was and is still abused heavily. I think there is a reason for
| this. Most c++ programmers are taught to stay clear of ugly low-level c
| things and to use the new shiny c++ facilities instead. And that's what they
| do, replace '\n' with std::endl. Personally I believe this reason alone
| justifies a std library extension std::newl.
|
| 2. IIUC the difference between a character and a manipulator is that the
| manipulator is not tied to the streams character type. So for some
| applications '\n' does not suffice. To me stream.widen('\n') is sufficiently
| ugly to justify a newl modifier.
|
| Thomas
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