On Jul 3, 2004, at 12:22 AM, beer wrote:

> >> Tested Komodo professional, version 3.0.0-beta4, build 104847.
> >> On Mandrake 10 with Gnome Desktop and KDE installed.
> >>
> >> It's working fine, though it's slower with mouse and keyboard input
> >> than
> >> KDevelop3's new php editor (which has code complete and intellisense 
> >> on
> >> php projects now). It's noticibly slower than A normal text editor 
> >> like
> >> Gedit UI editor or vi as well.
> >>
> >> Right now I'd say it's too slow to actually use. I'm running Mandrake
> >> 10.0 on a 1 Ghz Celeron with 256 MgRam. I hope to see this product
> >> improve in performance in the near future because Komodo 2.5 would 
> >> not
> >> run on Mandrake at all.
> >
> > You're kidding, right?  I use Komodo 2.5 on Mandrake 10 and 9.2.  It
> > most definitely runs.
> 
>  I'm not talking about 9.2, I'm talking about 10.0 which is what I'm
>  running. I switched immediately when 10 came out.

I'm well aware of that.  You'll noticed I said "10 and 9.2".  I do run 
10.0 here as well, and I do use Komodo on it.  It works fine.

>  http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/komodo-discuss/2108709
> 
>  Here is my bug complaint and stdout, stderr terminal dump as an
>  attachment. Komodo 2.5 does not work correctly with mandrake 10.0 on my
>  box. KDevelop however is super fast and works perfect, so for now I'm
>  going to stick with that for linux/php dev. It has everything Komodo
>  seems to have except for the regex dialog. It has the intellisense and
>  code completion for all php functions just like komodo, except it's 
>  much
>  faster.

I can't speak on KDevelop... I don't use it, or KDE.  I can't tell you 
what you should or should not use.

>  As I said I like Komodo, but right now It's not usable. I'll key in
>  input code and about 5 seconds after I key it in, it shows up on the
>  screen. None of my other text editors lag this way. I'm using evolution
>  mailer to type this message and everything is in realtime. Komodo is
>  type now, see text 5 seconds later. I wouldn't call that usable, but
>  whatever. I can't wait to see a new build of this project.

I am not seeing that behaviour here, but I'm not a Komodo developer, 
just a beta tester like you.  We obviously have differing experiences.

>  As for it being proprietary, MySQL has a proprietary version and yet
>  remains open so you can compile it on your machine for maximum
>  performance. Linux isn't exactly windows with the registry and people
>  doing all sorts of hoop jumps to keep people from copying programs. I
>  say just let people pay for the code and let them compile it. If they
>  really wanted to ripp it off badly, they'd just grab it on NNTP where
>  people have put up comprimised versions. Telling yourself you can
>  protect software against these people is putting on a facade anyway. 
>  Esp
>  on linux.

You don't need to make this argument to me, I was merely making an 
observation.  I have absolutely no say in what ActiveState does with 
their product; I'm as much affiliated with them as you are.  I was just 
making the comment that I have my doubts that you'll be able to 
download the source code for it.  How you feel about that, or what 
other companies do, is irrelevant to what ActiveState has, and most 
likely will, continue to do.

But I don't think that telling them to allow you to compile it on your 
own with whatever optimizations you feel like putting in there, is the 
answer.  That is, however, merely my opinion, and what I suspect from 
having used Komodo for quite a while now.

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