The list description is 7 years out of date, as *my* CP4E project
ended when I left CNRI. And *my* CP4E project was certainly not
intended to be political (in fact, the DARPA politics around funding
made me abandon it).

Feel free to petition the creation of an edu-politics@[...].org list.
Further discussion of this topic should be moved to meta-sig, the sig
to discuss lists. (Added to the CC list.)

But please don't steal my CP4E moniker.

FWIW, the no-politics ban was long overdue. The archives show it. And
please show me where the edu-sig homepage (which is much more
informative than the mailman description) mentions politics.

--Guido

On 7/18/07, kirby urner <kirby.urner@[...].com>  wrote:
>  Note:  I think it'll be confusing for newcomers to read the
>  following, and then encounter a strict "no politics" ban,
>  only recently instituted and not spelled out on any
>  python.org web page to date:
> 
>  ===
>  About Edu-sig
>  English (USA)
> 
>  This list is the starting point for a community around the
>  Computer Programming for Everybody (CP4E) project,
>  and a general meeting place for educators interested in
>  teaching Python.
> 
>  Currently the best description of CP4E is in the DARPA
>  proposal that generated the initial funding.
> 
>  See also the edu-sig homepage.
> 
>  To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the
>  Edu-sig Archives.
>  ===
> 
>  edu-sig has always been political (check the archives)
>  and as the text above makes clear, has indeed been
>  focussed on CP4E (I think very productively).
> 
>  This move to suppress political content and refocus the
>  list is a departure from the status quo.
> 
>  I'd like to see this list renamed to cp4e-sig so it might
>  keep its integrity and focus, while those with no stomach
>  for politics start their own (possibly heavily moderated)
>  group.  They could even call it edu-sig.  But we keep the
>  archives and go forward as cp4e-sig, in alignment with
>  the original mission statement and focus.
> 
>  Until such time as we've expunged all mention of CP4E
>  from the current list's description, I think we should leave
>  it to the list owner, Timothy Wilson, to perform any
>  moderating duties, which might included quietly warning
>  newcomers about the new rules.  That's his job.  Guido
>  is just another subscriber here and shouldn't be forced
>  into performing duties he's not signed up for.  That'll just
>  be confusing to everyone.
> 
>  Kirby
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