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MyASPN >> Mail Archive >> numpy-discussion
numpy-discussion
Re: [Numpy-discussion] Behavior of array scalars
by Travis Oliphant other posts by this author
Feb 17 2006 3:04PM messages near this date
[Numpy-discussion] Behavior of array scalars | Re: [Numpy-discussion] Behavior of array scalars
Christopher Barker wrote:

>  Hi all,
> 
>  It just dawned on my that the numpy array scalars might give something 
>  I have wanted once in a while: mutable scalars. However, it seems that 
>  we almost, but no quite, have them. A few questions:

NumPy (starting with Numeric) has always had this love-hate relationship 
with zero-dimensional arrays.  We use them internally to simplify the 
code, but try not to expose them to the user.  Ultimately, we couldn't 
figure out how to do that cleanly and so we have the current compromise 
situation where 0-d arrays are available but treated as second-class 
citizens.   Thus, we still get funny behavior in certain circumstances.  
I think you found another such quirky area. 

I'm open to suggestions.


To analyze this particular case...

The a+= 10

operation should be equivalent to add(a,10,a). 

Note that explicitly writing

add(a,10,a)

returns a scalar (all ufuncs return scalars if 0-d arrays are the 
result).   But, a is modified in-place as you wanted.

Perhaps what is going on is that

a += 10

is begin translated to

a = a + 10

rather than

add(a,10,a)

I'll have to look deeper to see why.

-Travis




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