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MyASPN >> Mail Archive >> perl-xml
perl-xml
Re: Namespace support in SAX serialisers
by Robin Berjon other posts by this author
Oct 17 2005 9:20AM messages near this date
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Re: Namespace support in SAX serialisers | Re: Namespace support in SAX serialisers
& XSLT On Oct 17, 2005, at 16:59, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
>  * Robin Berjon <robin.berjon@[...].fr> [2005-10-17 12:15]:
> > Ideally, this sort of functionality which turns a
> > non-conformant stream into a conformant one should be
> > abstracted into a separate module (a filter) so that other
> > pieces of the SAX infrastructure could reuse it.
> 
>  I thought about this but didnâ??t want to suggest it yet. A problem
>  with this approach is that the behaviour of serialisers when used
>  directly is left undefined. It would be good to know for definite
>  sure what the serialisers are expected to do. If a serialiser is
>  *supposed* to infer the missing information, then serialisers
>  should implement this behaviour directly, not in the form of a
>  wrapper. They donâ??t need to implement this themselves; it could
>  be done inside something like XML::SAX::Base (maybe
>  XML::SAX::Writer::Base?) which a serialiser can then inherit
>  from.

Actually, I don't think that we want to specify what writers are  
supposed to do. The reason for this is because doing it in full would  
be very complex and time consuming, and also it might prevent people  
from doing things that are perfectly normal in a writer. Also, the  
spec already says what a SAX event must contain, it just so happens  
that some writers make more efforts in terms of trying to handle  
broken streams. This has downsides in interoperability as people  
might not detect bugs, but it makes working with them a whole lot  
easier. If we do get a normalizing filter, it would be nice if it had  
an option to warn when it sees an invalid event so that people could  
test and fix their code.

What I do think we should do is promote best practices, which as  
usual in Perl means DWIMming (except when it doesn't). If Dom writes  
XML::Filter::Normalizer, then writers should use this directly. Note  
that I'm not saying that people should place that filter between  
their code and the writer themselves, I think the writer should do  
that for them. If you look at what sort of object XSW returns from  
its constructor, you'll see that it's not what you might expect --  
it's already returning a filter (which it needs for some of its  
escaping code).

-- 
Robin Berjon
    Senior Research Scientist
    Expway, http://expway.com/




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