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Re: [PHP-DEV] Simple Namespace Proposal
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Jul 16 2007 2:38AM messages near this date
Re: [PHP-DEV] Simple Namespace Proposal | Re: [PHP-DEV] Simple Namespace Proposal
As usual, consider Hans' opinion identical to mine ;) Nice job, can't  
wait for it being out in the wild.

David


Am 15.07.2007 um 02:37 schrieb Hans Lellelid:

>  As someone that has long clamoured for namespaces in PHP, I have to  
>  say
>  that this proposal by Dmitry is exactly what I & others have been  
>  hoping
>  for in PHP.  Thanks, Dmitry, for creating this patch.  I'm sure there
>  are going to be some peculiarities that need to be sorted out, but I
>  can't wait until we can start writing code to use this!  I am  
>  confidentl
>  that this is something that will be embraced by the OOP PHP  
>  community as
>  soon as it is available.
> 
>  Hans
> 
>  Andrei Zmievski wrote:
> > I love this. Let's ship it.
> >
> > -Andrei
> >
> >
> > On Jul 5, 2007, at 6:49 AM, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> >
> >> I think the following example is much better, however I am not sure
> >> it's a
> >> right direction. Namespaces are intended to declare names that can
> >> conflict
> >> with names from other namespaces (including global namespace), do  
> >> I am
> >> not
> >> sure that we need special keyword for internal functions.
> >>
> >> We'll think little bit more. Anyway thank you for feedback and idea.
> >>
> >> <?php
> >> namespace UTF8;
> >>
> >> overloaded class Exception {
> >> }
> >>
> >> overloaded function strlen() {
> >> }
> >> ?>
> >>
> >> Thanks. Dmitry.
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: david.coallier@[...].com
> >>> [mailto:david.coallier@[...].com] On Behalf Of David Coallier
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:35 PM
> >>> To: Stefan Priebsch
> >>> Cc: Dmitry Stogov; PHP internals
> >>> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Simple Namespace Proposal
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/5/07, Stefan Priebsch <stefan.priebsch@[...].de> wrote:
> >>>> David Coallier schrieb:
> >>>>> I would probably be in favor of throwing a notice or a
> >>> warning when
> >>>>> someone modifies a built-in function (or even throw an exception)
> >>>>> and that way as soon as you do such thing you would know
> >>> right away
> >>>>> that you modified something and you would know where the
> >>>>> modification happened which would make things much easier
> >>> for people
> >>>>> developing and debugging applications.
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem is that this kind of overloading makes a nice
> >>> feature as
> >>>> well. This is runied by throwing an exception, and cautious
> >>> developers
> >>>> will at least get nervous when they see a notice.
> >>>>
> >>>> I could imagine that by adding something like "overrides foo()" or
> >>>> "overloads foo()" to a function/method declaration the
> >>> developer could
> >>>> make clear that he willingly overrides a built-in function, and if
> >>>> this is missing, an exception is being thrown. This may be a  
> >>>> little
> >>>> over the top, however.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Yep I see what you mean.. could even be something like:
> >>>
> >>> namespace UTF8;
> >>>
> >>> overrides {
> >>>     strlen();
> >>>     strcmp();
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> function strlen($string)
> >>> {
> >>>     return strlen($string) + 666; // This is just an  
> >>> example ! } ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I kinda like the overrides part, however I wonder if people
> >>> will actually use it.. Oh well.. my two cents are now gone.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Stefan
> >>>>
> >>>> -- 
> >>>>> e-novative> - We make IT work for you.
> >>>>
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> >>>>  Sitz: Wolfratshausen - GF: Dipl. Inform. Stefan Priebsch
> >>>>
> >>>>  http://www.e-novative.de
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> David Coallier,
> >>> Founder & Software Architect,
> >>> Agora Production (http://agoraproduction.com)
> >>> 51.42.06.70.18
> >>>
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