Hi,

My apologies, I haven't realized these changes at that time.
I don't see any problem in changing things that aren't widely used like
IO stuff. But datagrids are a central part of every application, like
forms and we have many samples on the internet about its usage and
printed material also.

I know a simple "grep" or a "rpl" does the work (no need for scripts
Elizabeth), but it opens precedents. If we change these constants today,
we will be changing method names tomorrow and we'll start having
incompatible versions among the same encarnation of php-gtk2... And this
makes me really worried.

Bob told us there souldn't be books about php-gtk because there is not
even an stable release. But since the API was defined and we just needed
a major API coverage, there was no reason to delay this. I believe that
a techonogy need good developers to become a sucess but need
evangelizers also.

PS: "little things that make a big difference"
bests
Pablo Dall'Oglio

Em Qui, 2007-07-19 às 16:20 -0700, Andrei Zmievski escreveu:
>  I said that I was considering doing this back in March and asked for  
>  feedback. I only heard back from Steph who said, "Go ahead", so I  
>  assumed that everyone was fine with it.
>  
>  -Andrei
>  
>  
>  On Jul 18, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Pablo DallOglio wrote:
>  
>  > ok ok. I have to confess I'm very worried about that.
>  >
>  > I believe these types must be on Gobject, but they should be there  
>  > since
>  > the beggining. Now there are many sites out there with samples about
>  > GtkTreeView usage and Scott and I have books publised about php-gtk2
>  > with many samples using these types (Gtk::TYPE_BOOLEAN...).
>  >
>  > Should we review all the sites content ? And what about the books ? A
>  > guy buy the book, type the sample and it doesn't work... so he blames
>  > php-gtk, because it doesn't work fine...
>  >
>  > It has been dificult in these last years to conquer new users and  
>  > these
>  > BC breaks move them away from php-gtk2.
>  >
>  > PS: I copied php-gtk-dev because I think this should be reconsidered.
>  >
>  > Pablo
>  >
>  > Em Qua, 2007-07-18 às 15:28 -0400, Elizabeth Smith escreveu:
>  >> Pablo DallOglio wrote:
>  >>> If I understand, it changes the current way of declaring a  
>  >>> GtkTreeStore
>  >>> object ?
>  >>>
>  >>> $store = new GtkTreeStore(Gtk::TYPE_STRING, Gtk::TYPE_BOOLEAN);
>  >>>
>  >>> Pablo
>  >>>
>  >> yes
>  >>
>  >> $store = new GtkTreeStore(GObject::TYPE_STRING,  
>  >> GObject::TYPE_BOOLEAN);
>  >>
>  >> ;)
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
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Pablo Dall'Oglio

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