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MyASPN >> Mail Archive >> python-dev
python-dev
RE: [Python-Dev] tiny optimization in ceval mainloop
by Tim Peters other posts by this author
Aug 30 2002 8:35PM messages near this date
Re: [Python-Dev] tiny optimization in ceval mainloop | Re: [Python-Dev] tiny optimization in ceval mainloop
[Jack Jansen]
>  On vrijdag, augustus 30, 2002, at 06:12 , Tim Peters wrote:

Jack, I'm never on vrijdag -- vrijdag is illegal in the US <wink> .

>  ...
>  And it costs!
> 
>  Running pystone without another thread active I get 5500
>  pystones out of my machine. Running it with another thread
>  active (in a sleep(1000)) I get 4200.
>  After setcheckinterval(100) I'm back up to 5200.
> 
>  For completeness' sake: with no other thread active raising
>  setcheckinterval() doesn't make a difference (it's in the noise,
>  in my measurement it was actually 0.5% slower).
> 
>  We could get a serious speedup for multithreaded programs if we
>  could raise the check interval.

Guido already agreed to try boosting it to 100.

>  Some wild ideas:
>  - Use an exponential (or linear?) backoff. If you attempt to
>  switch and nothing happens you double the check interval, up to
>  a maximum. If you do switch you reset to the minimum.

On a pthreads system under 2.3, using semaphores, chances are good it will
always switch.  But unless you're trying to fake soft realtime, it's a real
drag on performance to switch so often  We can't out-guess this, because it
depends on what the *app* wants.  Most apps aren't trying to fake soft
realtime, so favoring less frequent switches is a good default.

>  - Combine the above with resetting (to zero? to minimum value if
>  currently >= minimum?) the check interval on anything we know
>  could influence thread schedule (releasing a lock, etc).

You need a model for what it is you're trying to optimize here.  I'm just
trying to cut useless overheads <wink> .


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