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python-dev
Re: [Python-Dev] Draft proposal: Implicit self in Python 3.0
by "Martin v. Löwis" other posts by this author
Jan 8 2006 9:33AM messages near this date
Re: [Python-Dev] Draft proposal: Implicit self in Python 3.0 | Re: [Python-Dev] Draft proposal: Implicit self in Python 3.0
Thomas Wouters wrote:
>  My point isn't that it isn't archived somewhere (mailinglists, wiki, FAQ,
>  the minds of many, many people, not just Python developers) but that it
>  isn't easily findable and it isn't easily accessible in a single location.

Why would a single Wiki page not be accessible in a single location? Why
is the FAQ not accessible in a single location?

>  I
>  thought PEP's where supposed to be that, and if I have a particular idea for
>  new syntax or new semantics, PEPs would be the place I'd look, not the FAQ
>  or a Wiki.

Right. However, I doubt you would look in the "rejected ideas" PEP.

>  I guess a Wiki'd work, but then I wonder, why aren't all PEPs in
>  a Wiki instead?

There might be several reasons - one  is that a PEP is supposed to get
posted to mailing lists and newsgroups, something that is not readily
possible with Wiki pages.

>  And I would like to point out how hard it is to google or grep for ideas
>  like this. For instance, the 'x, y, *rest = someseq' syntax.

I agree that collecting them in a single place is a good idea. Whether
this is a PEP, a Wiki page, or the FAQ is nearly irrelevant, except:
- it is strange to call it a "Python Enhancement Proposal"
- in either the FAQ or the PEP, it will stay in its initial form
  forever, since nobody but the original author will edit it
  (that could be true of a Wiki page as well, but on a Wiki page,
  people *know* they are meant to edit it if they want to say
  something)

Regards,
Martin
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