>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Steve Holden
> 
>  > I've been unhappy with the sample screenshots pages for a long time. Not
>  > only are a lot of the images old, but the descriptions of each sample is
>  > often brief and it has been so long since the pages were
>  updated that most
>  > of the samples aren't even included.
>  >
>  > http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/samples.html
>  >
>  Yeah, doesn't the web suck? :-)

Well it is the old bugaboo of not wanting to manually update HTML yet not
being able to decide on a standard template system and workflow for keeping
the darn thing updated.

>  > I've uploaded the first pass which includes a very simplistic table of
>  > contents. Should the contents use a frame like Dan did for the dialogs
>  > documentation?
>  >
>  Either that or simply repeat the TOC in each sample page. Probably
>  whichever's easiest to automate, I would think. Random access would
>  certainly be helpful. I'm not fond of frames myself, though I
>  have customer
>  who swear by them.

Okay, I changed the template so that it has a column like the home page with
the samples all listed. Looks a bit busy, web designers please save me from
myself ;-) Rather than having an actual contents page I think I'll just link
directly to samples/samples.html from the home page.

>  Maybe. I'd offer my own services if I weren't buried with PyCon.
>  I hope the
>  PythonCard/wxPython community is going to be out in force, recruiting
>  developers and explaining their technologies.

I'm planning on going, but I don't plan on presenting anything other than
maybe a lightning talk. I would love to do some sprints and get some real
work done while I'm there. That could include helping people with wxPython
or PythonCard projects they want to bring to PyCon or <gasp>  actually
working on the PythonCard framework if anyone was interested.

BTW, everyone appreciates your PyCon efforts.

ka



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