>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Steve Holden
>  >
>  > > I've been unhappy with the sample screenshots pages for a long time.
Not
>  > > only are a lot of the images old, but the descriptions of each sample
is
>  > > often brief and it has been so long since the pages were
>  > updated that most
>  > > of the samples aren't even included.
>  > >
>  > > http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/samples.html
>  > >
>  > Yeah, doesn't the web suck? :-)
> 
>  Well it is the old bugaboo of not wanting to manually update HTML yet not
>  being able to decide on a standard template system and workflow for
keeping
>  the darn thing updated.
> 
Plus the "can't find the time to save time" syndrome - it's always easier to
make an increment to an existing element than re-design, even though
ultimately the redesign will lower the work cost of each increment.

>  > > I've uploaded the first pass which includes a very simplistic table of
>  > > contents. Should the contents use a frame like Dan did for the dialogs
>  > > documentation?
>  > >
>  > Either that or simply repeat the TOC in each sample page. Probably
>  > whichever's easiest to automate, I would think. Random access would
>  > certainly be helpful. I'm not fond of frames myself, though I
>  > have customer
>  > who swear by them.
> 
>  Okay, I changed the template so that it has a column like the home page
with
>  the samples all listed. Looks a bit busy, web designers please save me
from
>  myself ;-) Rather than having an actual contents page I think I'll just
link
>  directly to samples/samples.html from the home page.
> 
I Think smaple/samples.html looks pretty good. Two suggestions to reduce the
"business".

You could split the samples into categories, and only show the individual
entries for the current category, plus the remaining categories as single
links. You could also make each entry just the screenshot, with a link to
any "readme" information.

>  > Maybe. I'd offer my own services if I weren't buried with PyCon.
>  > I hope the
>  > PythonCard/wxPython community is going to be out in force, recruiting
>  > developers and explaining their technologies.
> 
>  I'm planning on going, but I don't plan on presenting anything other than
>  maybe a lightning talk. I would love to do some sprints and get some real
>  work done while I'm there. That could include helping people with wxPython
>  or PythonCard projects they want to bring to PyCon or <gasp> actually
>  working on the PythonCard framework if anyone was interested.
> 
Put it in the Wiki! http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/PyCon/ Then you
might be able to get something set up in advance.

>  BTW, everyone appreciates your PyCon efforts.
> 
Except, perhaps, my wife and the paying customers ... :-]

regards
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Python Web Programming                 http://pydish.holdenweb.com/pwp/
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