Paul Everitt wrote:
>  On Jan 21, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Shane Caraveo wrote:
>  
> > Paul Everitt wrote:
> >> As indicated by the citation, I'm obviously interested.  However,  
> >> I'm not that experienced at all at build systems, much less the  
> >> megalith that is building Mozilla stuff.  As such, it would take me  
> >> 100% of my available off-time to contribute meaningfully to the  
> >> build system, I worry, and I'd have no time to actually develop my  
> >> app.
> >> Still, my experience yesterday was so miserable (can't get the  
> >> newly-build XUL.framework's symlinks recreated in my bundle) that  
> >> I'll give your Python build system a look before giving up.
> >> I truly wish I could contribute meaningfully to this.  xulrunner 
> >> +python has a chance to be very interesting, but the current  
> >> barrier to entry is rather high.
> > Hi Paul,
> > Doing this as an extension for Komodo, similar to Firezilla for  
> > Firefox, would allow you to focus on your application development  
> > for now. Later, you can deal with getting xulrunner+pyxpcom working  
> > properly. Jumping the hurdle of the mozilla build system and the  
> > intricacies of pyxpcom builds up front can be discouraging.
>  
>  I'm familiar with the Mozilla overlay system.  Can I make a Komodo  
>  extension with my own UI, essentially replacing the project layout and  
>  menu system?

I would suggest a separate window entirely, with an overlay to the tools 
menu to open the window.  That would make it easier to move to a 
separate application later in the process.

> > It's part of why I posted about getting the build system up to snuff  
> > to do a redistributable xulrunner+pyxpcom, that's the hard part of  
> > using this stuff for app development.
>  
>  Right.
>  
>  Regarding that, rather than being a whiner that doesn't contribute, I  
>  should find some other way to be constructive.

That's a matter of time and desire to put in that effort, I'm not 
perceiving this as whining :)

>  Would a bounty help?  Meaning, I'd put up some money to get the  
>  xulrunner+pyxpcom build system up-to-snuff on the trunk and on  
>  autopilot?
>  
>  If so, is there a reasonable population of people that might be  
>  willing to do it for an amount that isn't in 4 digits? :^)  Or, is it  
>  a very small group that has a high commercial rate for which they're  
>  fully booked?

Well, I don't really know (for either the bounty or number of available 
people), this is the best place to get that response to those questions. 
  My impression is that there are relatively few applications using 
PyXPCOM, but I don't have any data to back that up.

Shane
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