ASPN ActiveState Programmer Network
ActiveState
/ Home / Perl / PHP / Python / Tcl / XSLT /
/ Safari / My ASPN /
Cookbooks | Documentation | Mailing Lists | Modules | News Feeds | Products | User Groups


Recent Messages
List Archives
About the List
List Leaders
Subscription Options

View Subscriptions
Help

View by Topic
ActiveState
.NET Framework
Open Source
Perl
PHP
Python
Tcl
Web Services
XML & XSLT

View by Category
Database
General
SOAP
System Administration
Tools
User Interfaces
Web Programming
XML Programming


MyASPN >> Mail Archive >> ruby-talk
ruby-talk
Re: Ruby is exploding onto the scene as Java did at the end of 1990s
by Francis Cianfrocca other posts by this author
Aug 17 2006 2:44PM messages near this date
Re: Ruby is exploding onto the scene as Java did at the end of 1990s | Re: Ruby is exploding onto the scene as Java did at the end of 1990s
On 8/17/06, Charles O Nutter <headius@[...].com>  wrote:
 >  I think there's a short answer that would please almost everyone: Ruby makes
>  development cheaper, more fun, and more compelling than it has been since
>  the late 90s.


As interesting as your whole argument sounds, it's light on specific
business drivers. Enterprise IT is in the middle of a secular
transformation that will fundamentally change the playing field for
traditional vendors. You've correctly perceived that an explosion in
development productivity is under way. At the moment it's being spent
in an orgy of wheel-reinventing that Java (through the miracle of
well-focused corporate sponsorship) managed to largely avoid. But
along with the miracle of corporate sponsorship came the horror of...
Java itself, and there is an argument to be made that it couldn't have
turned out any other way.

The right model for Ruby advocacy may not be Java but rather Python
(or Linux). If so, then success will come from organic growth and
slow, steady success, largely in projects far from the enterprise
mainstream (which these days is all bogged down thinking about
governance models for SOA- talk about expending cycles that don't
deliver business value!)

The payoff from the productivity explosion will come to enterprise
environments in time. One thing I'm confident about, however, is that
it won't necessarily accrue to the benefit of traditional technology
vendors. If I'm right, then trying to find a big corporate backer for
Ruby among today's big players may be counterproductive as well as
hard to do.
Thread:
Zoat
Matthew Moss
Francis Cianfrocca
Charles O Nutter
Francis Cianfrocca
John Lam
Francis Cianfrocca
M. Edward Borasky
Daniel Berger
Huw Collingbourne
M. Edward Borasky
Francis Cianfrocca
Charles O Nutter
Francis Cianfrocca
Charles O Nutter
Francis Cianfrocca
Elliot Temple
Pixelnate
Charles O Nutter
Chad Perrin
Francis Cianfrocca
Chad Perrin
Patrick Hurley
Leslie Viljoen
Chad Perrin
Robert Dober
Robert Dober
N Okia
Chad Perrin
Krf
Daniel Berger
Robert Dober

Privacy Policy | Email Opt-out | Feedback | Syndication
© ActiveState Software Inc. All rights reserved