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Very bad about Squeak in blogosfere
by Janko Mivsek other posts by this author
Aug 11 2007 3:15PM messages near this date
Re: Actually, An excess of productivity is killing Smalltalk. | Re: Very bad about Squeak in blogosfere
From Anonymous on 
http://factor-language.blogspot.com/2007/08/smalltalk-is-dying.html:

"Anyone who says Squeak is production ready has never used Squeak in 
production. Recently quite a prominent member of the Squeak community 
seriously considered moving to Java because he could not get uptimes 
bigger than a two days. It turned out Delays and Semaphores (!!!) were 
broken all time along. There are dozens of issues like this. One example 
is that the settings of the GC are tuned for memory sizes of about 1 MB. 
Don't even get me started about the 1 GB and 120 MB memory issues which 
tend to crash the image. Or the bugs in ClassBuilder, 
InterpreterSimulator, Decompiler, .... You need to have several Squeak 
images per CPU because there is a limit to the amount of punishment a 
single Squeak image can take. Squeak itself is heavily forked (Squeak, 
Croquet, Sophie, SqueakLand, SmallLand, ... ). All the code in the image 
in unmaintained. There are teams but most of the time they don't even 
integrate submitted fixes for bugs. Development of these packages has 
stopped. The same situation for the VM. The only VM that is maintened is 
the Mac VM. The Windows VM will only get new builds if the maintainer 
needs some fixes for himself. The Unix VM is unmainted. The maintainer 
of the main VM code publically stated he will do shit unless someone 
pays him. Squeak is fully of ugly shit code that has just been hacked in 
for abandoned experiments. That http server Seaside uses on Squeak? 
Unmaintained and has bugs with HTTP 1.1. That really is just a small 
list of issues Squeak has."




-- 
Janko Mivšek
AIDA/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si
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