Re: Very bad about Squeak in blogosfere
by Jason Johnson other posts by this author
Aug 11 2007 11:50PM messages near this date
Very bad about Squeak in blogosfere
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Re: Very bad about Squeak in blogosfere
From the writing style it's completely obvious who wrote this, so all
I can say to him is: do you think this helps brining people to
Smalltalk? An external blog isn't the most effective place to get
*this* group moving, but it's a great place to get more people to go
"yep, Smalltalk sucks just like I thought".
The way to get these problems fixed is get more people in (since that
produces code fixes as well as potentially more donations). Comments
like this do the exact opposite.
On 8/12/07, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@[...].si> wrote:
> From Anonymous on
> http://factor-language.blogspot.com/2007/08/smalltalk-is-dying.html:
>
> "Anyone who says Squeak is production ready has never used Squeak in
> production. Recently quite a prominent member of the Squeak community
> seriously considered moving to Java because he could not get uptimes
> bigger than a two days. It turned out Delays and Semaphores (!!!) were
> broken all time along. There are dozens of issues like this. One example
> is that the settings of the GC are tuned for memory sizes of about 1 MB.
> Don't even get me started about the 1 GB and 120 MB memory issues which
> tend to crash the image. Or the bugs in ClassBuilder,
> InterpreterSimulator, Decompiler, .... You need to have several Squeak
> images per CPU because there is a limit to the amount of punishment a
> single Squeak image can take. Squeak itself is heavily forked (Squeak,
> Croquet, Sophie, SqueakLand, SmallLand, ... ). All the code in the image
> in unmaintained. There are teams but most of the time they don't even
> integrate submitted fixes for bugs. Development of these packages has
> stopped. The same situation for the VM. The only VM that is maintened is
> the Mac VM. The Windows VM will only get new builds if the maintainer
> needs some fixes for himself. The Unix VM is unmainted. The maintainer
> of the main VM code publically stated he will do shit unless someone
> pays him. Squeak is fully of ugly shit code that has just been hacked in
> for abandoned experiments. That http server Seaside uses on Squeak?
> Unmaintained and has bugs with HTTP 1.1. That really is just a small
> list of issues Squeak has."
>
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>
>
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
>
>
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