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Re: Squeak on Zaurus 5500SL
by Doug Mair other posts by this author
Apr 18 2003 4:57PM messages near this date
Re: Squeak on Zaurus 5500SL | Re: Squeak on Zaurus 5500SL
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Re: Squeak on Zaurus 5500SLFrom what I am finding out, the Zaurus 5500SL =
is a different machine than the one Yoshiki Ohshima's instructions work =
for.

I did get Squeak running on my Zaurus with Dynapad using the =
instructions found at:
    http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2930
    and some help from the squeak-dev list

I was pleasantly surprised to find that this version actually has =
morphic running.  I wasn't expecting that.

Now I will have to learn the gesture interface so that I can bring up =
halos using a stylus, etc.

Who'da thought you could actually graphically program on a handheld =
computer.


Thanks,
Doug Mair
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Alan Kay=20
  To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list=20
  Cc: Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org=20
  Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:45 PM
  Subject: Re: Squeak on Zaurus 5500SL


  Yoshiki Ohshima has this running. He can tell you more.


  Cheers,


  Alan


  ------


  At 11:33 AM -0400 4/18/03, Doug Mair wrote:
    I bought a Zaurus 5500 and am now trying to get Squeak running on =
it.

    I checked out the DirectFB Zaurus page on the swiki.

    The problem is that I don't know Linux (Unix) at all.  I'm a windows =
programmer with a strong DOS background.

    I copied the following files into the CF card of the Zaurus:
            squeak, dynapad-r01.image, dynapad-r01.changes

    I then booted into the OS and moved to the correct directory on the =
Zaurus:
            mnt/cf/Documents/application/octet-stream

    The Linux ls command showed all of the files that I expected.

    When I try the command shown on the page:
            squeak -calibrate -rotate -memory 10m dynapad-r01.image
    I get the following error:
            squeak not found.

    I also tried:
            squeak -calibrate -rotate -memory 10m Squeak.image
    and got the same error.

    I seem to remember (from my college days using Unix) that I have to =
set up a file as executable before I try to execute it.

    I would appreciate more specific directions about Squeak on Zaurus =
5500 or Linux OS commands.


    Thanks,
    Doug Mair




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<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From what I am finding out, the Zaurus =
5500SL is a=20
different machine than the one Yoshiki <FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3> Ohshima</FONT>'s instructions work for.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2> </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did get Squeak running on my Zaurus =
with Dynapad=20
using the instructions found at:</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
href=3D"http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2930"> http://minnow.cc.gatech.=
edu/squeak/2930</A> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and some help from =
the=20
squeak-dev list</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was pleasantly surprised to find that =
this=20
version actually has morphic running.&nbsp; I wasn't expecting=20
that.</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now I will have to learn the gesture =
interface so=20
that I can bring up halos using a stylus, etc.</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Who'da thought you could actually =
graphically=20
program on a handheld computer.</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Doug Mair</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> 
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> ----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"> <B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DAlan.Kay@[...].org =
href=3D"mailto:Alan.Kay@squeakland.org"> Alan=20
  Kay</A>  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> <B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dsqueak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org"> The =
general-purpose Squeak=20
  developers list</A>  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> <B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3DYoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org"> Yoshiki.Ohshima@[...].org</A> =
</DIV> 
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> <B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 18, 2003 =
1:45=20
PM</DIV> 
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> <B>Subject:</B> Re: Squeak on Zaurus=20
5500SL</DIV> 
  <DIV> <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV> Yoshiki Ohshima has this running. He can tell you more.</DIV>
  <DIV> <BR></DIV>
  <DIV> Cheers,</DIV>
  <DIV> <BR></DIV>
  <DIV> Alan</DIV>
  <DIV> <BR></DIV>
  <DIV> ------</DIV>
  <DIV> <BR></DIV>
  <DIV> At 11:33 AM -0400 4/18/03, Doug Mair wrote:</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>I bought a =
Zaurus 5500 and=20
    am now trying to get Squeak running on it.</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>I checked out =
the DirectFB=20
    Zaurus page on the swiki.</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>The problem is =
that I=20
    don't know Linux (Unix) at all.&nbsp; I'm a windows programmer with =
a strong=20
    DOS background.</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>I copied the =
following=20
    files into the CF card of the Zaurus:</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT=20
    size=3D-1> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; squeak,=20
    dynapad-r01.image, dynapad-r01.changes</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>I then booted =
into the OS=20
    and&nbsp;moved to the correct directory on the=20
Zaurus:</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT=20
    size=3D-1> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    mnt/cf/Documents/application/octet-stream</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT></TT>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>The Linux ls =
command=20
    showed all of the files that I expected.</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT></TT>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>When I try the =
command=20
    shown on the page:</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT=20
    size=3D-1> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; squeak =
-calibrate -rotate=20
    -memory 10m dynapad-r01.image</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>I get the =
following=20
    error:</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT=20
    size=3D-1> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; squeak not=20
    found.</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>I also=20
  tried:</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT=20
    size=3D-1> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; squeak =
-calibrate -rotate=20
    -memory 10m Squeak.image</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>and got the =
same=20
    error.</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT></TT>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>I seem to =
remember (from=20
    my college days using Unix) that I have to set up a file as =
executable=20
    before I try to execute it.</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>I would =
appreciate more=20
    specific directions about Squeak on Zaurus 5500 or Linux OS=20
    commands.</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> &nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT=20
  size=3D-1> Thanks,</FONT></TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"> <TT><FONT size=3D-1>Doug=20
  Mair</FONT> </TT></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV> <BR></DIV>
  <DIV> <BR></DIV><X-SIGSEP><PRE>--=20
</PRE> </X-SIGSEP>
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