Re: Squeak on Zaurus 5500SL
by Alan Kay other posts by this author
Apr 18 2003 8:53PM messages near this date
Re: Squeak on Zaurus 5500SL
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At 12:57 PM -0400 4/18/03, Doug Mair wrote:
> From what I am finding out, the Zaurus 5500SL is a different machine
> than the one Yoshiki Ohshima's instructions work for.
>
> I did get Squeak running on my Zaurus with Dynapad using the
> instructions found at:
>
> <http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2930>http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2930
> and some help from the squeak-dev list
>
> I was pleasantly surprised to find that this version actually has
> morphic running. I wasn't expecting that.
>
> Now I will have to learn the gesture interface so that I can bring
> up halos using a stylus, etc.
>
> Who'da thought you could actually graphically program on a handheld computer.
Oh, somebody about 35 years ago ....
Cheers,
Alan
>
>
> Thanks,
> Doug Mair
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <mailto:Alan.Kay@[...].org>Alan Kay
> To: <mailto:squeak-dev@[...].org>The
> general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Cc: <mailto:Yoshiki.Ohshima@[...].org>Yoshiki.Ohshima@[...].org
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Squeak on Zaurus 5500SL
>
> Yoshiki Ohshima has this running. He can tell you more.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>
> ------
>
> At 11:33 AM -0400 4/18/03, Doug Mair wrote:
>
> >I bought a Zaurus 5500 and am now trying to get Squeak running on it.
> >
>
>
> I checked out the DirectFB Zaurus page on the swiki.
>
>
>
> The problem is that I don't know Linux (Unix) at all. I'm a windows
> programmer with a strong DOS background.
>
>
>
> I copied the following files into the CF card of the Zaurus:
>
> squeak, dynapad-r01.image, dynapad-r01.changes
>
>
>
> I then booted into the OS and moved to the correct directory on the Zaurus:
>
> mnt/cf/Documents/application/octet-stream
>
>
>
> The Linux ls command showed all of the files that I expected.
>
>
>
> When I try the command shown on the page:
>
> squeak -calibrate -rotate -memory 10m dynapad-r01.image
>
> I get the following error:
>
> squeak not found.
>
>
>
> I also tried:
>
> squeak -calibrate -rotate -memory 10m Squeak.image
>
> and got the same error.
>
>
>
> I seem to remember (from my college days using Unix) that I have to
> set up a file as executable before I try to execute it.
>
>
>
> I would appreciate more specific directions about Squeak on Zaurus
> 5500 or Linux OS commands.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug Mair
>
>
>
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<div> At 12:57 PM -0400 4/18/03, Doug Mair wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <tt><font size="-1">From what I am
finding out, the Zaurus 5500SL is a different machine than the one
Yoshiki</font> </tt><font face="Times New Roman">
Ohshima</font> <tt><font size="-1">'s instructions work
for.</font> </tt></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <tt><font size="-1">I did get Squeak
running on my Zaurus with Dynapad using the instructions found
at:</font> </tt></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <tt><font
size="-1"> </font></tt> <a
href="http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2930"> <tt><font
size="-1"> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/2930</font></tt></a></blockquote
>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <tt><font size="-1">
and some help from the squeak-dev list</font> </tt></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <tt><font size="-1">I was pleasantly
surprised to find that this version actually has morphic running.
I wasn't expecting that.</font> </tt></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <tt><font size="-1">Now I will have to
learn the gesture interface so that I can bring up halos using a
stylus, etc.</font> </tt></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <tt><font size="-1">Who'da thought you
could actually graphically program on a handheld
computer.</font> </tt></blockquote>
<div> <br>
Oh, somebody about 35 years ago ....</div>
<div> <br></div>
<div> Cheers,</div>
<div> <br></div>
<div> Alan</div>
<div> <br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <tt><font
size="-1"> Thanks,</font></tt></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <tt><font size="-1">Doug
Mair</font> </tt><br>
<blockquote> ----- Original Message -----</blockquote>
<blockquote> <b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:Alan.Kay@squeakland.org">Alan
Kay</a> </blockquote>
<blockquote> <b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org"> The
general-purpose Squeak developers list</a> </blockquote>
<blockquote> <b>Cc:</b> <a
href="mailto:Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org"> Yoshiki.Ohshima@[...].org</a></blockquote
>
<blockquote> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 18, 2003 1:45 PM</blockquote>
<blockquote> <b>Subject:</b> Re: Squeak on Zaurus 5500SL</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br></blockquote>
<blockquote> Yoshiki Ohshima has this running. He can tell you
more.</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br></blockquote>
<blockquote> Cheers,</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br></blockquote>
<blockquote> Alan</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br></blockquote>
<blockquote> ------</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br></blockquote>
<blockquote> At 11:33 AM -0400 4/18/03, Doug Mair wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> <tt><font size="-1">I bought a Zaurus
5500 and am now trying to get Squeak running on it.</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">I checked out the DirectFB Zaurus page
on the swiki.</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">The problem is that I don't know Linux
(Unix) at all. I'm a windows programmer with a strong DOS
background.</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">I copied the following files into the
CF card of the Zaurus:</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">
squeak, dynapad-r01.image, dynapad-r01.changes</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">I then booted into the OS
and moved to the correct directory on the Zaurus:</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">
mnt/cf/Documents/application/octet-stream</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">The Linux ls command showed all of the
files that I expected.</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">When I try the command shown on the
page:</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">
squeak -calibrate -rotate -memory 10m
dynapad-r01.image</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">I get the following
error:</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">
squeak not found.</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">I also tried:</font></tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">
squeak -calibrate -rotate -memory 10m Squeak.image</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">and got the same
error.</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">I seem to remember (from my college
days using Unix) that I have to set up a file as executable before I
try to execute it.</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">I would appreciate more specific
directions about Squeak on Zaurus 5500 or Linux OS
commands.</font> </tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">Thanks,</font></tt><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt><font size="-1">Doug Mair</font></tt><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote> <br></blockquote>
<blockquote> <br></blockquote>
<blockquote> <tt>--</tt></blockquote>
</blockquote>
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