Zoran,

I am a by stander, but I couldn't keep quite.

>  I do not think that TIP 257, as-is now, should be voted for inclusion in
>  mainstream Tcl codebase, as neither the code nor the interface stability
>  is sufficient enough for professional-grade applications.
>  
>  It could exist as an extension to Tcl for people that find it useful.
>  Technically, a separate branch outside the main Tcl distribution tree
>  should be sufficient for that purpose, IMO.

It already is an extension I believe.

>  One should use the knowledge gathered by its develoment (AND by the 10+
>  years of XOTcl development) to create (better) hooks in core Tcl for
>  other (OO) extensions to have better interfacing capabilities,
>  as in the spirit of the Tcl language.

You mentioning things like "knowledge" and "10+ years of XOTcl development". 
These are great in theory but as a practical matter they are meaning less if 
they aren't shared and in the context of open software "shared" does not mean 
making the code is available. The problem with XOTcl is that (for what ever 
reason) there hasn't been an interested party that is actively working on 
sharing the code and getting it into the core.

If you or someone else in the XOTcl community is willing to say "Wait, we are 
working on an implementation of TIP#279 and it will be ready in 6 months." or 
something similar, then I say "Let's wait.". But if all you are saying is 
"TIP#257 isn't ready.", then that seems to provide no positive out come and I 
say "Call the vote.".

It is my understanding that putting TclOO in the core will not effect any 
existing code, including XOTcl, so on the surface the XOTcl community should 
have any problem with putting TclOO in the core.

There has been a long standing demand by the Tcl user community for OO 
capability in the tcl core and I am extremely grateful for those who are willing 
to put in the time an effort to make this happen. I am also aware that 
everything is a compromise, including language development, but progress should 
not be halted for lack of compromise.

Tom K.

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