On Jun 18, 2007, at 1:12 AM, Kristoffer Lawson wrote:

>  On 18 Jun 2007, at 07:04, Kevin Walzer wrote:
> 
> > Let's set aside the issue of the major commercial Mac software
> > vendors,
> > such as Microsoft and Adobe, and the fact that their major
> > applications
> > are all Carbon. Has Apple given any consideration to the fact that
> > nearly every cross-platform GUI toolkit uses Carbon for its windowing
> > system API? Not just Tk, but Qt, wxWidgets, and RealBasic, for
> > starters.
> > Or perhaps they have given this thought, and want to discourage
> > cross-platform toolkits?
> 
>  But why do they use Carbon? Why not move to Cocoa in their cases as
>  well?

Objectionable C - that's why.  We old-timers know C and C++, and  
Carbon works with C and C++.  To make the move to Cocoa, we need to  
move our knowledge base to Objective C.  While that may be a simple  
thing for new programmers, for us old dogs, it would be a dramatic  
new trick.  Additionally, it means developing an entire new code base  
for existing applications.

>  I can understand the move from Apple's point of view perfectly.
>  In fact, it has been a public secret for years that Carbon will be
>  deprecated at some point and that developers should use Cocoa. It's a
>  lot of work to maintain to APIs and does not make much sense for  
>  Apple.

But, they set the precedence...

>  I can't really see the benefit in holding on tight to Carbon.
>  Besides, purely from a user's perspective, Cocoa application in
>  general feel more refined.
> 
>              /  http://www.fishpool.com/~setok/

They feel more refined because the developers didn't take the time to  
make things correctly in the Carbon version.  There are a lot of  
Carbon-based apps out there that have a feel and workflow as refined  
as any Carbon app.

Tim


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