On 19/06/2007, at 12:22 PM, Jeff Hobbs wrote:
> > We cannot use AquaTcl/Tk anyway because the main reason we use Tk  
> > is  for BLT which itself won't work under AquaTk because it  
> > grovels  directly in X11.  R also has issues with not being able  
> > to uses Aqua  Tcl/Tk packages with the Cocoa GUI.
> 
>  BLT may be an issue, but the real problem there is a maintainer  
>  that is less than communicative with the rest of the Tk development  
>  world.  He has a great widget set - it would be great if he didn't  
>  ostracize himself in developing it.  I don't think that getting BLT  
>  to work on standard Tk APIs (and thus on OS X) would be a  
>  tremendous amount of work.

I did inspire someone to have a go at it, but it never got finished.   
Of course if ActiveState would like to take over the code so far......
> 
> > We basically decided to bite the bullet, ditch the Tcl/Tk and do  
> > a  new Apple/GNUstep Appkit one.
> > I am thinking that maybe Apple is less than frank when it says on  
> > its  developer site that Tcl/Tk is a viable GUI on MacOS X.
> 
>  I'm not sure what you are so grumpy about (aside from BLT as noted  
>  above), but have you seen the Tcl Dev Kit or Perl Dev Kit on OS X?  
>  Click on the first image at:
>  	http://www.activestate.com/Products/perl_dev_kit/fix.plex
>  or	http://www.activestate.com/Products/tcl_dev_kit/deploy.plex

Yes I have looked at them.  Great products, but not, as far as I can  
see, what we or the R-project need.  They seem to be aimed at  
producing nice MacOS X GUIs for applications written in Tcl or Perl.   
What we have is a library, written in Objective-C (not Cocoa yet),  
including a Tcl/Tk/BLT gui.  In the case of R there is C/C++ code  
with Tcl/Tk guis like Rcmdr.

Cheers
Bill Northcott
PS I am not grumpy just realistic.


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