>  gave..I tried 
>  bd {3 3 3 3} and relief groove  so that looks with a diminished  3-d 
>  effect ..

Note that '-bd {3 3 3 3}' is equivalent to '-bd 3'.  If the
list is only one element, that element is used for all 4
borders.

  Jeff Hobbs, The Tcl Guy
  http://www.ActiveState.com/, a division of Sophos



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