>  
>  I think the best way forward would be making the XRC side stronger
>  and keeping as much of the design and layout out of the code as
>  possible.  That means that people who are talented at improving 
>  the design could do so.
>  
>  I have tried to start using XRC, but fail really quickly.  For
>  example I can create a frame, but you can't place a menubar 
>  inside it using the editor which seems really limiting.  I also
>  can't see how to add my own widgets to the editor.  (I can
>  add an "unknown", but can't specify the class name).
I have no problem with the above. I am using WxGlade for layout and output
XRC and it works very well. I have a menubar in my frame.

With the unknown, I am not sure what you want to accomplish. I normally
subclass a panel and add my customization in this class.

It have to admit it was kind of big treshold but know I wouldnt
go back.

>  
>  At the moment the whole XRC thing seems ok for the most trivial
>  interfaces, but too hard for anything beyond that.  (Remember that
>  one of the things that made VB sucessful was how quickly you could
>  create both trivial and non-trivial interfaces).  The thing 
>  that would 
>  convince me that XRC is more than trivial would be seeing the 
>  majority of 
>  the demo using XRC, and being localised while we are at it.
>  
>  Roger
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