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RE: [xml-dev] MS thinks HTTP Needs Replacing???
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bill_de_h=D3ra?= other posts by this author
Feb 27 2002 3:02PM messages near this date
RE: [xml-dev] MS thinks HTTP Needs Replacing??? | Re: [xml-dev] MS thinks HTTP Needs Replacing???
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>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@[...].com]
> 
>  > Fielding quoted:
>  >
>  "What makes HTTP significantly different from RPC is that the
>  requests are directed to resources using a generic interface 
>  with standard semantics that can be interpreted by 
>  intermediaries almost as well as by the machines that 
>  originate services."
>  
>  That's called redefining something in order to prove that you
>  are not it.  It's a nice rhetorical trick, and useful with 
>  people who already believe your definitions, but I don't 
>  think Fielding escapes all claims that the HTTP protocol is 
>  itself RPC.

Surely what makes HTTP different from RPC is that HTTP is a
networking protocol, RPC is a moniker which describes a style of
network computing. Another way of saying this is that the HTT
protocol is a linguistic abstraction for enabling and framing the
distribution of hypertext. RPC identifies a pattern or style for
distributed computing but is not itself a language for computing.
Sorry to be a pedant, but RPC and HTTP are as apples to oranges. 

The controversial matters seem to be 1) whether this HTTP language
has interesting utility beyond distributed hypertext; if so, how to
evolve the language? 2) whether the RPC style of distributed
computing is limiting our ability to solve problems; if so what
styles are appropriate? 

Bill de hÓra



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