It means they got there first, Mike.  MS is  
stepping out front and ahead of the standards 
with running code.  That is how this is supposed 
to work.  Even Dr. Goldfarb recognizes it as 
progress. (Hey, now I know what Paoli has 
been doing.)

I'm mystified as to why you would think this 
would all go into IE.  Surely by now you've 
come to understand that a web browser based 
on HTML is a boat anchor.  A tag-soup 
browser was and always has been a short sighted, 
way to implement a hypermedia system.  We knew it 
in 1993.  The world needed training wheels 
and UofC and Berners-Lee gave them 
that.  It is almost a decade later, and 
having repeated a decade of hypertext 
research, fixing some nits, and getting 
markup out there instead of gencode, 
the time of the browser-centric web is 
coming to an end for enterprise developers.
HTML is a great thing for the novice but it 
has been pushed as far as gencoding can 
go and probably a bit further than was 
smart.  It's time to move ahead.

I'm look forward to XDocs.  This should be fun 
to finally see in a commercial framework.  The 
CRM guys should love it.

len

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Champion [mailto:mc@[...].org]

10/15/2002 2:19:45 PM, "Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@[...].com>  wrote:

> The best write ups about XDocs I've seen online were at
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,609994,00.asp and 
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2002/Oct02/10-09OfficeFamily
> .asp respectively. 
> 
> If that is not enough information, next month's Extreme XML should be
> about XDocs et al. You can mail me questions you'd like to see answered
> and I'll be sure to pass them along to the Office team. 
> 

Neither mention XForms.  I'm wondering what differentiates XDocs and
XForms in terms of requirements, usage scenarios, functionality, etc. I'm also
wondering why XForms is part of Office rather than IE.

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