Trevor Toenjes wrote:


>  I did not know this.  This is valuable info.
>  Thank you for contributing this way.
>  BTW-I have suggested that we start giving credit on zope.org's homepage to
>  groups that support Z3 sprints.  We need more sprints to get Z3 out faster.


Yes. I agree too. Also other Zope summits would be great. I would like 
to see other Zope developers and hear about their projects while also 
propably working together on some of the Zope-issues for the future. 
Because of my location ( in Finland ) northern Europe or for example 
Germany would be ideal place for this kinf of happening.


>  I started using Zope because of low cost of entry to do OO web apps with
>  Python. And I embraced the idealism that the Zope community was bent on
>  keeping things FREE for developers.
>  I am trying to protect this ideal situation.

...

>  You still havent answered how the money is being used.  And you dont have to
>  answer.  My perspective is that the zope community is not for profit.  We

...

>  Maybe if you disclosed that 100% of the procedes will go to Z3 development
>  and paying for more sprints then the community benefit would be clearer and
>  easier to support.


Yes. The money issue is intersting. 90 Euros is not that much -- but I 
would like to know what I am getting. While buying books I know that I 
am also helping new Zope title's to come available, since publishers 
see that there is need for dead tree products too.

While buying per article I would also know what I get. Buing stuff in 
a 'year full of subscriptin of something' I don't buy it. Not for 90 
Euros. If it would be to also support Z3 or CMF development I would 
not hesitate!

Open the businessmodell and use the community. If it is agreed, for 
example, that an article is worth x Euros for the author and general 
expenses for each magazine ( hosting etc. ) is X euros - while rest 
goes into Sprint fund or similar, I believe there wouldn't be any 
problem and propably would like to contribute just for the Sprints sake.

And yes. The magazine idea is still good!

-huima



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